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Green Card for Migrants

Post by Aj » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:20 am

All,

The news item from today's 'The Irish Times' is pasted below.

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Migrants must earn at least €55,000 to get green card

Skilled migrant workers will have to earn a minimum of about €55,000 per year to qualify for the Government's new green card system, writes Martin Wall.

The green cards will be issued to skilled staff in 10 sectors of the economy where labour shortages are deemed to exist.

Card-holders, as with all other people legally resident in the State, will be able to apply for citizenship after five years of residency.

There will be an automatic right for immediate family unification for all those holding green cards.

The existing work-permit regime for skilled workers has been criticised in recent years as bureaucratic and inflexible by lobby groups in the private sector.

Green cards, under the new system, will be different from existing work permits in that they will allow holders full freedom to seek jobs within specified areas of the economy.

The Government announced the introduction of legislation for a new green card system for skilled migrant workers last June.

However the criteria for the operation of the new scheme were set out for Cabinet yesterday by the Minister for Enterprise Micheál Martin.

Under the criteria for the scheme, the new green cards will be available for highly qualified staff in 10 sectors: information and computer technology; healthcare; construction; biotechnology; engineering; financial services; transport; sales and marketing; research and the skilled technical area.

The new scheme is aimed at attracting highly skilled staff to Ireland and the minimum qualification threshold will be based on salary.

Informed sources said that at a minimum, those seeking to acquire a green card will have to earn in the region of €55,000 a year.

However this minimum figure could be increased by the Department of Enterprise and Employment before the introduction of the scheme.

The 10 sectors of the economy where the new green card system will apply were proposed to the department by Forfás and the Expert Group on Future Skills Needs which examined labour shortages throughout the economy. Under the system, the green cards will be issued for a minimum of five years.

The system is being introduced by the Government in response to growing competition for highly skilled migrant workers from other countries in Europe as well as the US.

The new proposals will affect nationals from outside the European Economic Area which comprises the 25 member states of the European Union as well as Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Switzerland.

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How many going to make it?

Post by ssivanand » Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:15 am

How many Indians going to make it?

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Post by Strongbow » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:51 pm

Well said ssivanand, as usual this policy does not seem to come as a result of genuine desire of the govt. to alleviate the problems faced by skilled migrants. As far as I can see, doctors will be able to make the cut, but as far as other professionals go, it would only be a miniscule percentage who would be able to make the grade.

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Post by Saint_007 » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:16 am

Strongbow wrote:Well said ssivanand, as usual this policy does not seem to come as a result of genuine desire of the govt. to alleviate the problems faced by skilled migrants. As far as I can see, doctors will be able to make the cut, but as far as other professionals go, it would only be a miniscule percentage who would be able to make the grade.


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Post by sksopirala » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:58 pm

Hi Saint,

I am not sure how much influence can greenparty make on this issue?

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Post by Aj » Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:31 pm

Moreover, it appeared to me from the news item that Government might consider increasing the Euro 55,000 limit later on!

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Post by vijaykollu » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:40 am

Hi,

Does any one know, What procedure should we follow to apply for Green Card.

or Any links related to this info?

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Post by joriveek » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:19 am

there is no procedure or links yet on any govt sponsored website. it's only been presented in the cabinet yet. it would take a little while possibly before you see anything on this.

they should really be introducing the points system like in Canada, New Zealand.....it shouldn't be only on salary but also your experience, education/professional qualifications & recognizations. Also job shouldn't be a criteria to apply for green card.

i advise you to look into High Skilled Immigration Program by UK before you think of applying in here, Ireland. Few of my friends who have even no jobs, they have got High Skilled Immigration Visas/permissions in UK depedning up the point system. it's more flexible than whatever they introduce here in Ireland.

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Post by Aj » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:04 am

joriveek,

Very true about UK system. If that sort of thing is happening here in offing, probably people will have better chances then in securing a 'Greencard' as a minimum salary standard of Euro 55,000 wouldn't be the only criteria then!

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Post by Strongbow » Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:22 pm

The skeptic that I am, i don't think any good is going to come out of it. Remember when the govt. were planning on the spousal work permit scheme, everyone was saying that they would make it similar to the UK where the spouse has an automatic right to work(no work permit or any other papers needed). In the end what resulted was a sham, where companies still have to do the paper work for a work permit (although they don't have to pay any fees). Once companies realised that they had to to do this, they simply shunned the non-EU spouses. I'm talking about the bulk of companies here and of course there are exceptions.

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Post by Aj » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:46 pm

Guys,

There's a news item in today's 'The Irish Times'.

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'Green cards' may worsen two-tier jobs plight, migrant group warns
By Joe Humphreys


Legislation allowing for a new "green card" scheme for immigrant workers, due to be presented to the Dáil today, is in danger of "exacerbating a two-tier system" of employment in the State, the Immigrant Council of Ireland (ICI) has warned.

The lobby group said it welcomed some provisions of the proposed Employment Permits Bill 2005, which is being published by the Minister for Enterprise, Micheál Martin.

However, the council said it failed to address a number of issues, including family reunification and the threat of exploitation of migrant workers.

The legislation will allow the Minister to issue a new type of permit to skilled staff in mainly high-tech sectors where labour shortages are deemed to exist.

The "green cards" will allow holders full freedom to seek jobs within specified areas of the economy.

However, the ICI said the new permits did not equate to US green cards.

"Instead of treating economic migrants as potentially permanent members of Irish society, we are still treating them as guest workers who are fulfilling our economic and labour market needs, without providing any real sense of permanence. While people may be able to apply for citizenship after five years in the State, no application is guaranteed and it can take years to get a decision."

The council expressed concern at the suggestions that people will have to earn over €55,000 a year to be eligible for the proposed "green cards".

"The ICI would be concerned that by doing this we are in danger of exacerbating a two-tier system, where some economic migrants are seen as more preferable and entitled to more rights and entitlements than others".

While the council said it welcomed provisions under the Bill to allow for further sanctions for exploitative employers, such measures would be "meaningless unless the Government also provides for a significant strengthening of the resources deployed to police this area".

Irish Times.

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Post by joriveek » Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:00 pm

immigration coucil or green party are going to make a very little impact on govt decisions. remember in the past we fought for working right for spouses but they introduced it but again included the clause of paper work. this paper work took about 5-6 months for wife...may be my wife's is one of those companies who have got soon after they have introduced.

again i have spoken with couple of companies and spouses...companies are not willing to go through those paper work where they consider this paper work same as applying for normal work permit. company's point of view they don't go through when they have plenty of people available here to do the same work...those don't need work permits here.

they will change of course the critera for green cards...but not now...would take few years at least...

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Green card law

Post by ssivanand » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:59 am

The new law on green cards is likely to be passed by Easter this year, which will also be the end of the college term that begins next week and we hope that it will make higher education in Ireland attractive for Indian students,” Mary Hanafin, minister for education and science of Ireland, told ET

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Post by babus » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:47 pm

any body have any idea when they are going to implement green card ?

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